Am I Czech or Bohemian ? Or both?? (part I) / Jsem Cech nebo Bohem ? Nebo objoji?? (1. cast)

question mark yahoo imageOK, I think it’s about time to put some light on the words “Bohemia” and “Bohemian“. The dictionary describes the word “Bohemian” as follows:

  • a native of Bohemia (duh!)
  • a person (an artist or writer), who lives and acts free of regard for conventional rules and practices
  • a Gypsy
  • the Czech language, esp. as spoken in Bohemia
  • living a wandering or vagabond life, as a Gypsy

That didn’t help much!! What I want to know is when we call ourselves “Bohemians”, is it a correct description? Does the word “Czech” really equal to the word “Bohemian”? Well, this is what some trusted sources of mine say about this – to many of us – very confusing term:

CZ:Tak si myslim, ze je na case, abychom si posvitili na dva, dnes dosti matouci vyrazy: “Bohemia” a “Bohemove”. Mohou se Cesi – ze zemepsineho hlediska – nazyvat Bohemy? Vypatrala jsem na toto tema odpovedi:

The word “Bohemian” is derived from the Latin name for a certain Celtic tribe called the Boii - Boiohaemum – inhabiting the modern day Czech Republic. Until the 19th century the Czechs were called solely Bohemians. After that a need arose to start distinguishing the Bohemian Slavs and the Bohemian Germans (the region of Silesia).

Map of Bohemia /wikipedia imageHow about the term “Bohemia”? Bohemia, according to the definition, is a historical region in the central Europe, occupying the WESTERN two-thirds of the traditional Czech Lands, currently the Czech Republic and it does not include the region of Moravia. This region was settled by the Boii about 300 BC who also spread into France, Italy, Hungary and Slovakia. During the 1st century the western part of Bohemia was settled by Germanic tribes which later also absorbed the leftover of the defeated Boii in the eastern part of Bohemia. In the 6th century Bohemia received an influx of various Slavic tribes, the precursors of today’s Czechs.

Sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemia

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=+bohemia

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MichaelM August 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm

Well, this does it! No matter how I cut it, I’m not a Bohemian. Do roots through marriage count? What about an honorary degree of Bohemianness?

Tanja August 7, 2008 at 10:18 pm

I bet we could fudge the reality a bit and give you the honorary degree of Bohemianness ;) )

Ladka August 7, 2008 at 10:56 pm

Tanja,
Thanks for this posting. My American husband was asking me about the difference and I really didn’t know.
I enjoy your czechmatediary very much.

Tanja August 7, 2008 at 11:35 pm

Hi Ladka/Ahoj Ladko,

No problem, my husband asked me exactly the same question and I stayed there with my mouth open…didn’t have the answer!

Nemas zac, ja jsem mela ten samy problem, kdyz se me manzel zeptal na tu samou otazku. Dosti jsem se zastydela, ze jsem nevedela odpoved a hned jsem “skocila” na Wikipedii (samozrejme, vsechno co jsem si precetla jsme se ucili ve skole; ale pamatuju si neco?? Samozrejme ze ne…..hrozne me to stve!)

Lenka August 8, 2008 at 12:47 am

Nobody ever joked about it with you? I guess I don’t have that problem, I am a Moravian.

Tanja August 8, 2008 at 2:29 am

So since I come from Prague I am stuck with that weird “nickname” forever ;)
to abych si prestala holit nohy!!!

Michaela April 27, 2010 at 4:31 pm

Hi Tanja, to jsem rada, ze se nekdo zamysli jako ja, dva roky dozadu jsem zacala svoji pout nazvanou bohemianexperience, kde za zabyvam slovem bohem, bohemiansim, lide, puvod, a vse okolo, je toho hodne a je to zajimave, jak je to vse propojene…

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